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Game tsubasa ps2 untuk pc game. I owned Gothic 1 on steam but was continuously getting an access violation everytime I ran it. I tried running it in compatibility mode and even tried the 'administrator' idea. Nothing has worked. I now buy it from GoG thinking that would fix it but I get exactly the same thing.

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I have the Steam version of Gothic 2 and have installed Ironkeep's Patch v2.10 and I get a lot of crashes. I can play 20-40 minutes and eventually the game will have an Access Violation crash or the game will just hang, anywhere.
So my question is, will the GoG version be any more stable after patches? Has anyone been able to compare the two?
For reference, my system specs are:
Intel Core i5 2600k factory settings
Geforce GTX 560 Ti
Drivers: GeForce 320.49 Driver
Version: 320.49 WHQL
8 GB Ram 1333MHz
Gigabyte H67N motherboard
Let me know, because I want to finish this game in a week or two, not a few months from now :)
edit: If this has already been answered, point it out to me and the mods can delete this thread. Thanks!

Post edited August 04, 2013 by akahoovy

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Have you tried playing without the Ironkeep patch? I've never used this patch myself. It could be that this is the source of the problem rather than something specific to the Steam version of the game.

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akahoovy: So my question is, will the GoG version be any more stable after patches? Has anyone been able to compare the two?

The main problem of Steam versions of Gothic that leads to crashes (especially Access Violation) comes from In-Game Steam Community overlay. Try disabling that: Steam -> Settings -> In-Game and make sure the option is not checked.
I'd also strongly recommend you doing a clean reinstall, without any patches whatsoever, as my Gothic (I + II) experience taught me you don't need any of those to complete the game in a perfectly fine manner.
Please post back if this helps.

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akahoovy: So my question is, will the GoG version be any more stable after patches? Has anyone been able to compare the two?

kojocel: The main problem of Steam versions of Gothic that leads to crashes (especially Access Violation) comes from In-Game Steam Community overlay. Try disabling that: Steam -> Settings -> In-Game and make sure the option is not checked. Gothic 2 access violation steam new game

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I'd also strongly recommend you doing a clean reinstall, without any patches whatsoever, as my Gothic (I + II) experience taught me you don't need any of those to complete the game in a perfectly fine manner.
Please post back if this helps. Steam isn't compatible with many of the older games they sell. You might have to rename and move it to a new folder. This works in at least one game I know of; I'll get the details as it might work for this one too.

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OK; VTMB refers to the other game so ignore that and any specific patches or mods in the instructions. I'm not a techy but I am assuming the method and reasoning would be the same for this game:
(1) Locate your VTMB installation within your Steam folders.
(2) MOVE that entire VTMB folder (and everything that it contains, including all sub-folders) to a new location on your hard drive. I suggest placing it in its own unique directory called 'VTMB' or something similar.
(3) Install the True Patch Gold Edition -after- you have moved the entire game away from Steam.
(4) Install any TPG-compatible mods that you might wish to use.
(5) Create a new desktop shortcut to the vampire.exe file within your main VTMB folder. Simply locate the vampire.exe file, highlight and copy it (press Ctrl-C) and then, right-click anywhere on an empty area of your Windows desktop and select 'Paste shortcut' from the pop-up menu (or whatever the equivalent command is for Windows 7).
(6) Add any necessary command line switches to the 'Target' box of your new VTMB shortcut.

Post edited August 06, 2013 by lordhoff

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If the fix described above doesn't work for any reason, or you're struggling with it, post again as I'm familiar with the game referred to and yes, one the fixes that works with VTMB may provide a fix that resolves your issue with Gothic 2. I'll keep checking during the rest of today in case you need an alternative.

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From United States

Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I've been out of town for a few days and will begin trying some of these ideas to see what resolves this.
I have previously tried to play without the IronKeep patch and I had the same results.

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From United States

Update: Nothing so far has worked. I tried
- Doing a complete reinstall without the IronKeep patch
- Disabling the Steam Community overlay. I disabled everything for this, including screen shots through Steam
- Moving the directory for the game outside of the Steam common apps, but the game would not launch after moving it
I still am freezing and crashing with Access Violation about 45 minutes to an hour after starting to play. I haven't installed the IronKeep patch again yet. I'm thinking at this point it may be worth trying GoG's version to see if it's any more stable.

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Hi Folks,
I owned Gothic 1 on steam but was continuously getting an access violation everytime I ran it. I tried running it in compatibility mode and even tried the 'administrator' idea. Nothing has worked.
I now buy it from GoG thinking that would fix it but I get exactly the same thing. I have tried the 'world of gothic' system fix/patch and that doesn't help at all. Does anyone else have any more options to try? I am getting really frustrated with this access violation error. (read error). I think from now on I might scan these help pages before I hit that 'purchase' button. might give me an incite into whether I might be buying a problem game.
Out of despiration am trying to install the system/playerkit again but when the programs ask to browse to the installation folder for Gothic1, the 'OK' button to install remains ghosted and is not clickable. I thought maybe the playerkit MUST be installed first but this issue is happening to the playerkit as well. Why is it doing this? such a pain!

Post edited August 30, 2014 by ymo1965

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From Russian Federation

ymo1965: Hi Folks,
I owned Gothic 1 on steam but was continuously getting an access violation everytime I ran it. I tried running it in compatibility mode and even tried the 'administrator' idea. Nothing has worked.
I now buy it from GoG thinking that would fix it but I get exactly the same thing. I have tried the 'world of gothic' system fix/patch and that doesn't help at all. Does anyone else have any more options to try? I am getting really frustrated with this access violation error. (read error). I think from now on I might scan these help pages before I hit that 'purchase' button. might give me an incite into whether I might be buying a problem game.
Out of despiration am trying to install the system/playerkit again but when the programs ask to browse to the installation folder for Gothic1, the 'OK' button to install remains ghosted and is not clickable. I thought maybe the playerkit MUST be installed first but this issue is happening to the playerkit as well. Why is it doing this? such a pain!

To run in Steam need to remove it overlay dll. Or run the game from the catalog Windows Explorer directly.
Read and follow the install instructions:
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1340357-Release-Gothic-%C2%BD-%C2%97-SystemPack-%28ENG-DEU%29

ymo1965

From United Kingdom

MaGoth: To run in Steam need to remove it overlay dll. Or run the game from the catalog Windows Explorer directly.
Read and follow the install instructions:
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1340357-Release-Gothic-%C2%BD-%C2%97-SystemPack-%28ENG-DEU%29 I did state in my first post that the system fix didn't work. I tried to install it again but when it asks where you want to install it (where the game is) the 'OK' button isnt lighting up for me to install. It's as if there is something its looking for and not finding. I am getting real peed off trying to install something that just doesnt want to work. I have even reverted to a freshly installed copy of Windows x64 to see if that helps but made no difference.
I am a little confused why you are giving instructions for installing to steam. I have tried the overlay fix and it did s*d all. I already said I bought the GoG edition because the damn steam version was cr@p. I didn't want to fork out £6 for the GoG version but was forced to because the steam version was useless. I am never buying older games from steam and recommend others do the same unless they know 100% they work. GoG's customer service is far better that steams but it is extremely frustrating paying twice for a game and neither work!
I'm sure Piranha Bytes could knock out a simple .exe fix in less than an hour or so and cure all our woes. but sure they don't give a shoot anyway! a nice reminder when they come out with another bug filled game and want me to buy it !!!

Post edited August 30, 2014 by ymo1965

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From Germany

I dont have the first Gothic 1, so I cant help you directly, just with some general hints:
Try to run the game as administrator.
For installing any fixes try to locate the right folder (maybe it is the bin subfolder of the game and not the root folder of the game). Also you have to rename the exe file, maybe. It could also be possible that you are missing some registry entries to be able to install them.
Try to install the newest Direct X 9. This is necessary because Windows 7 doesnt support Direct X 9 out of the box!
Update / Install your graphics driver. The drivers that are shipped with Windows arent complete and maybe really outdated! All in all you really shouldnt rely on them.
Try to deactivate Data Execution Prevention for the game (google it how to do so).

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From United Kingdom

ThomasD313: I dont have the first Gothic 1, so I cant help you directly, just with some general hints:
Try to run the game as administrator.
For installing any fixes try to locate the right folder (maybe it is the bin subfolder of the game and not the root folder of the game). Also you have to rename the exe file, maybe. It could also be possible that you are missing some registry entries to be able to install them.
Try to install the newest Direct X 9. This is necessary because Windows 7 doesnt support Direct X 9 out of the box!
Update / Install your graphics driver. The drivers that are shipped with Windows arent complete and maybe really outdated! All in all you really shouldnt rely on them.
Try to deactivate Data Execution Prevention for the game (google it how to do so).

I don't mean to be nasty, but why do people not read my original post? I already stated in the first paragraph that I tried the Administrator option. It did nothing! I am waiting for GoG to get back to me now. I am pretty tired of this stupid violation error. I shouldn't have to mess about like this after spending £6 on a game that doesn't have a definitive fix. I only did it because I was so sick of the useless steam version. Steam shouldn't be selling games that don't work. and made worse by not providing any support.

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ymo1965: Out of despiration am trying to install the system/playerkit again but when the programs ask to browse to the installation folder for Gothic1, the 'OK' button to install remains ghosted and is not clickable. I thought maybe the playerkit MUST be installed first but this issue is happening to the playerkit as well.

You have to choose the system folder (if I recall correctly), not the main installation folder, since it is looking for gothic.exe.

ymo1965

From United Kingdom

Arkose: You have to choose the system folder (if I recall correctly), not the main installation folder, since it is looking for gothic.exe. Thanks Arkose for your reply. Haven't had that much response for this and surprised considering the level of grief this game gives people. Unfortunately I was unable to install the playerkit or the systempack. I selected the system folder but made no difference whatsoever. Still remains unclickable so cannot install.
I have been reading lots of advice by people saying to install Gothic or any game that gives access violations out of the program files x64 folder. The fact is I don't think they realise that GoG games are installed in a GoG folder in the root of drive C: (well, gothic does anyway). So why do we still get access violation errors?
I even tried installing it on drive D: and still the same. This error is hideous and driving me crazy. All I get is a black screen with 'Gothic 1.08k' in the top left corner and what appears to be a small black screen in the centre. Ok, the whole screen is black but you can see your mouse pointer at the top, bottom and sides of the screen as you move it, but if you move the cursor into the centre you can see a black square which hides the pointer if you go to the centre. Sorry, only way i can describe it.
If I press enter I go back to the desktop but receive an access violation error and sometimes a priviledge error as well.
Looks like I might be asking for a refund now. The other two Gothic games work ok but this game cost more than the other two and is a nightmare. I think it strange how GoG claim they guarantee there games will work. That's quite a tall claim to make when we all know how unpredictable or problematic windows can be.
Have already written to GoG support and hoping they can come up with something new to try because I have ran out of idea's and scanned probably all the web based help I can find.
Thanks again..

Arkose

From New Zealand

ymo1965: Unfortunately I was unable to install the playerkit or the systempack. I selected the system folder but made no difference whatsoever. Still remains unclickable so cannot install.

The player-kit installer can be extracted manually with 7-Zip or similar. It should be possible to move the extracted files to their equivalent locations to get the same result as installing it normally.

ymo1965: I think it strange how GoG claim they guarantee there games will work. That's quite a tall claim to make when we all know how unpredictable or problematic windows can be.

It's not that a game will absolutely work but rather that they are confident that it will work on most configurations and so will refund in cases where it still doesn't for some reason. GOG work directly on the compatibility of the games they sell whereas Steam and the rest leave that responsibility to the developer/publisher and sell the game exactly as supplied.

ymo1965

From United Kingdom

To be honest I really don't know what these packs do and doubt they fix the violations. I just downloaded them because there wasn't really any other idea/solution to try. It confuses me why you can have several people with the same version of windows (in my case windows 7 64bit) and half may be able to play a gog game without issue whereas the rest cannot get the game to work at all. Could be a hardware thing perhaps but most problems nearly always seem to be software related.
Being an Nvidia user I was made aware of a 'PhysX-9.12.1031-Legacy' driver that can in many cases get older games to work. It had made a lot of older games with launching issues work fine, but Gothic sadly seems to be the the exception to the rule.. it's my only gog title that really doesnt want to know. I'm quite a patient person but even this is beginning to stretch things a little. I have a steam version of Gothic as well and have the exact same problem. Think I will do some research now before I hit that 'buy' button. Thanks for your help anyway. Been good sharing the pain lol ;)

Post edited August 31, 2014 by ymo1965

Arkose

From New Zealand

ymo1965: I was made aware of a 'PhysX-9.12.1031-Legacy' driver that can in many cases get older games to work. It had made a lot of older games with launching issues work fine, but Gothic sadly seems to be the the exception to the rule.

PhysX is specific to games that need it; most games don't use PhysX (especially older ones like Gothic).
GOG's installers bundle the legacy PhysX installer when it is needed (e.g. Two Worlds).

ymo1965

From United Kingdom

Arkose:

PhysX is specific to games that need it; most games don't use PhysX (especially older ones like Gothic).
GOG's installers bundle the legacy PhysX installer when it is needed (e.g. Two Worlds). Thanks for this, didnt realise!
UPDATE - Gog refused to give me a refund. Said it was my fault for picking a game not supported by my OS (try telling that to all the others who have bought it). All they could offer me was a free game up to 5.99 value. When I tried to pick the game I was greeted by 47 pages of games that werent even in an alphabetical order and when i got to the last 10 pages they fast forwarded by themselves to the last page so never got to find If my choice game was even in the list. Now I gotta wait another day to see if they can figure out why there game list isnt working for me to use. If it's not one thing it's another :/ won't be buying games from these guys so easily now. So much for there money back.
Be careful folks. If it doesn't say your OS then don't take a risk. Not worth it if things go wrong!

Post edited September 01, 2014 by ymo1965

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Try this:
Install Gothic ½ — SystemPack. I can't add links, so Google it.
Then go to Gothicsystem directory, open Gothic.ini and change 'zStartupWindowed=0' value to 'zStartupWindowed=1'. Enter your screen resolution to 'zVidResFullscreenX' and 'zVidResFullscreenY' and change 'zVidResFullscreenBPP=16' to 'zVidResFullscreenBPP=32'.
If your resolution is 1920x1080, it should look like this:
'zVidResFullscreenX=1920
zVidResFullscreenY=1080
zVidResFullscreenBPP=32
; .. used resolution
zStartupWindowed=1'
Does it work now?

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Hi) I bought Gothic 1 on Steam and got that Access Violation error. I followed these instructions at WorldOfPlayers site and everything starts working) Give it a try)
Look at Installation Info and Downloads sections.
I play at Windows 10 x64

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